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151 Re: The Commodore: Continuity error -- rank: 669

To me, it is more likely that O'Brian had it right, but the editor/publisher deliberately changed it to spark discussion among the readers.

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152 Re: The Commodore: Continuity error -- rank: 669

On 6/3/07, Adam Quinan <hms.bee_at_gmail.com> wrote: > > > > You are right, there is a discrepancy and the only explanation I can come up > with is that POB made a mistake and the editors at his publishers didn't > bring it to his atention. There are those who argue that he was incapable of > error and there is a long and convoluted explanation, but I suspect their > tongues are firmly in their cheeks. > > > There are other oddities such as the co ...

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153 Re: The Commodore: Continuity error -- rank: 669

  In a message dated 6/3/2007 3:56:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hms.bee_at_GMAIL.COM writes: There are those who argue that he was incapable of error and there is a long and convoluted explanation, but I suspect their tongues are firmly in their cheeks. Heresy, heresy, heresy! Let's gather the wood for burning Adam at the stake and somebody bring the marshmallows ...       Bruce Trinque 41°37'52"N 72°22'29"W ************************************** See what's fr ...

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154 Re: The Commodore: Continuity error -- rank: 669

On 6/3/07, Ned Humphrey <neddhartha_at_gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, this is my first post to the Gunroom. I'm delighted to have found > this resource! > > My question is about what seems to be a significant error in inter-volume > continuity in "The Commodore". I was wondering if anyone else has noticed > the same thing. > > snip > > I have been reading through all the novels obsessively over the past few > months, and though there ...

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155 Re: The Commodore: Continuity error -- rank: 669

On 3 Jun 2007 at 20:31, Ned Humphrey wrote: > this is the first time that I've caught O'Brian > contradicting the storyline in what seems to be so gross a fashion. Welcome to the Gunroom. No doubt, others here will greet you more vociferously! But I'll greet you first. Hah! Hah! As for your observation, no doubt others here will explain that POB never nods. (Could there be a difference in the various printings, I wonder?) I just figure that it was done a'purpose for reason ...

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156 The Commodore: Continuity error -- rank: 669

Hello, this is my first post to the Gunroom. I'm delighted to have found this resource! My question is about what seems to be a significant error in inter-volume continuity in "The Commodore". I was wondering if anyone else has noticed the same thing. On pp. 32-33 of the Norton paperback edition, Stephen is giving a precis of his trip around the world, first in the Diane, then in the Nutmeg and finally in the Surprise. Now, from my reading of "The Nutmeg of Consolation&quo ...

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157 Re: The Commodore: Formality at sea again -- rank: 669

On Mar 15, 2007, at 1:04 PM, David Charnick wrote: Overtaken by the need for a nice nap, I goofed on the last paragraph of a recent posting, and my sleepy fingers wrote: > It wd be nice of somebody wd formalize the somewhat old-fashioned > eighteenth century formalisms used in the canon. > David Charnick, wide awake, noticed and wrote: > I hope the final comment is ironic, Charlezzzzz: where would we be > without the turn of phrase? As Lear says, "reason, not the ...

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158 Re: The Commodore: Formality at sea -- rank: 669

Chzzz wrote: > It wd be nice of somebody wd formalize the somewhat old- > fashioned eighteenth century formalisms used in the canon. So Chz cd reduce thm all to abbrvs. "Dr Maturin TTP!" Speaking of little small speech patterns, I've been seeing "little small" a lot lately. As far as I can recall it began in Truelove or NOC and it continues unabated through TYA. Sure, speech patterns go through fads today, driven by the pervasiveness of media such as TV. But in ...

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159 Re: The Commodore: Formality at sea -- rank: 669

Charlezzzzz, perhaps I am revealing the effects of a youth spent entirely too much involved in bookish matters, but none of the language you quoted from The Commodore falls the least bit strangely on my ear. I think you may have shown a light on the difference between an author of a rather terse style--say Dashiel Hammett--and POB. Hammett would certainly have used the last possible turn of phrase to express his meaning, thus, perhaps, illustrating the difference between characters of br ...

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160 Re: The Commodore: Formality at sea -- rank: 669

At 16:03 15/03/2007, you wrote: >Here's a passage from The Commodore: > >"Commodore's compliments, if you please, and should be happy to see >Dr Maturin on the poop at his leisure.' > 'Thank you, Mr Wetherby: pray tell the Commodore, with my respects, >that as soon as I have looked into the sick-berth I shall do myself >the honour of waiting on him upstairs.' > >Here it is again, with comments: > >[Commodore's compliments] this phrase seem ...

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161 Re: The Commodore: Formality at sea -- rank: 669

On 3/15/07, Charlezzzzz <charlezzzzz_at_comcast.net> wrote: > "Commodore's compliments, if you please, and should be happy to see > Dr Maturin on the poop at his leisure.' > 'Thank you, Mr Wetherby: pray tell the Commodore, with my respects, > that as soon as I have looked into the sick-berth I shall do myself > the honour of waiting on him upstairs.' > > Here it is again, with comments: > > [Commodore's compliments] this phrase seems to be r ...

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162 The Commodore: Formality at sea -- rank: 669

Here's a passage from The Commodore: "Commodore's compliments, if you please, and should be happy to see Dr Maturin on the poop at his leisure.'         'Thank you, Mr Wetherby: pray tell the Commodore, with my respects, that as soon as I have looked into the sick-berth I shall do myself the honour of waiting on him upstairs.' Here it is again, with comments: [Commodore's compliments] this phrase seems to be required when sending a message to one's subordinate officers. Wd i ...

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163 Re: Firing the commodore -- rank: 669

I need my eyes checked, apparently. On first reading, I thought that Bruce was writing about "Finding the Commode." Doug To be removed from the GUNROOM list send a blank message to UNSUBSCRIBE-GUNROOM_at_HMSSURPRISE.ORG

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164 Re: Firing the commodore -- rank: 669

On Oct 8, 2006, at 7:26 AM, Batrinque_at_AOL.COM wrote: > Joe Torre has managed the New York Yankees for 11 years. In each of > those 11 > years the Yankees have made it to the Major League Baseball post-season > playoffs. They have won the AL East title for 9 straight years. They > have won the > World Series four times under Torres. A case of "but what have you done for me _lately_? To be removed from the GUNROOM list send a blank message to UNSUBSCRIBE-GUNR ...

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165 Re: Firing the commodore -- rank: 669

In a message dated 10/8/06 11:06:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bruhelmboldt_at_GMAIL.COM writes: > hopefully the TIGERS will go on to represent the American League in the > "World" Series and take it all. I guess I am more or less rooting for the Tigers, feeling something of a loyalty to those old time baseball teams that have resided decade after decade after decade in one city (excepting the Yankees, of course). Bruce Trinque 41°37'52"N 72°22'29"W To be ...

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