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196 Group Read - The Commodore -- rank: 669

On page 60, Norton paperback, Sophie is musing on he mother's new interest in conversation and in her thoughts she refers to crim. con. It looks really wierd and not of the period. Anyone know about it? Thanks, Julie To be removed from the GUNROOM list send a blank message to UNSUBSCRIBE-GUNROOM@HMSSURPRISE.ORG

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197 Re: End of _The Commodore_: Not POB's best work? (SPOILERS) -- rank: 669

On 5/9/05, Hugh Yeman <hughyeman@yahoo.com> wrote: > Is it just me, or did the last chapter of _The Commodore_ seem rushed and > uninspired? I got the impression that POB dashed it off at the last minute > under pressure from the publisher. It is not just you, Hugh, nor is it just Commodore. Many of POB's books have endings that seem rushed. I suspect that it is due in part to meeting the publisher's deadline. The POB notes in the Lilly Library show that he sometimes fe ...

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198 End of _The Commodore_: Not POB's best work? (SPOILERS) -- rank: 669

Is it just me, or did the last chapter of _The Commodore_ seem rushed and uninspired? I got the impression that POB dashed it off at the last minute under pressure from the publisher. I can't put my finger on it exactly, and I suspect that much of it involves subtle writing techniques - or a lack thereof - of which I'm not consciously aware. But if I had to give a concrete example I'd say that the resolution of the mission to sink or destroy the French expedition seemed inadequately fle ...

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199 Re: The Commodore (not really a spoiler...) -- rank: 669

Batrinque@AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 8/3/04 9:16:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > johngosd@YAHOO.COM writes: > > > On my previous travels through the canon I have generally felt that the > > last > > four volumes were somehow less satisfying than their predecessors. > > However, on re-re-re-reading The Commodore, I find that I was being too > > severe. > > Forget about the plot (never, for me, the most important factor of POB's > & ...

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200 Re: The Commodore (not really a spoiler...) -- rank: 669

In a message dated 8/3/04 9:16:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, johngosd@YAHOO.COM writes: > On my previous travels through the canon I have generally felt that the > last > four volumes were somehow less satisfying than their predecessors. > However, on re-re-re-reading The Commodore, I find that I was being too > severe. > Forget about the plot (never, for me, the most important factor of POB's > work) it contains many of the sort of gems that make me smile while re ...

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201 The Commodore (not really a spoiler...) -- rank: 669

On my previous travels through the canon I have generally felt that the last four volumes were somehow less satisfying than their predecessors. However, on re-re-re-reading The Commodore, I find that I was being too severe. Forget about the plot (never, for me, the most important factor of POB's work) it contains many of the sort of gems that make me smile while reading.  For instance, from Brigid's voyage on the Ringle: "This being Thursday, she and all hands were allowed a pound of ...

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202 Re: GroupRead: "The Commodore" - a Conrad reference and somehumour -- rank: 669

> on 4/16/03 2:16 PM, Larry & Wanda Finch at finches@BELLATLANTIC.NET wrote: > >> Not the only forward reference in the series; do lissuns recall some of the >> others? > > Translated from some other language: > > When the bells justle in the tower > The hollow night amid. > Then on my tongue the taste is sour > Of all I ever did. > > a prequotion from AE Houseman > A few years ago, there was a lot of discussion on the list about ...

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203 Re: GroupRead: The Commodore - POB and Pope -- rank: 669

That does sound like Stephen! (Sorry for all the one-liners lately but no book handy.) ~~ Linnea Re: GroupRead: The Commodore - POB and Pope From: Charles Munoz ("charlezzzzz@COMCAST.NET) Date: Sat Apr 19 2003 - 22:01:36 EDT We saw POB quoting Alexander Pope a while back. Now in "Commodore," Maturin, musing to himself as he tries to fall asleep, thinks: "Yet changed he [Maturin] had to some degree, of that there was no doubt: more and more, for example, it seemed to ...

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204 Re: GroupRead: The Commodore -- rank: 669

Very nice, Katharine. I love those little voyages on the Ringle, too. (And always love the reason it's named the Ringle.) I'm very frustrated---I must not have The Commodore and must have gotten it from the library months ago when the Group Read got me started all thru the books again. I wish I had made notes! I had all the books but that one and then I sent off another to my sister by mistake with a batch I'd bought at the library book sale. ~~ Linnea Re: GroupRead: The Commodore Fro ...

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205 Re: GroupRead: The Commodore - POB and Words -- rank: 669

This is just from a google search but it may be of interest- and includes at the end the words.. Among the rarer issues of this period are the pistole and double pistole of 1646. Which are the only gold coins struck in Ireland (excluding a number of proofs struck in gold over the years and some recent ecu patterns http://www.irishcoinage.com/ORMOND.HTM > > > > > > Thankee, sir. I did another google for Inchiquin pistole and found=20 > > a German site , which stated ...

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206 Re: GroupRead: The Commodore - POB and Words -- rank: 669

In a message dated 4/19/2003 7:27:08 PM Central Daylight Time, alec1@EIRCOM.NET writes: > Bheul Bheul?

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207 Re: GroupRead: The Commodore -- rank: 669

The Commodore has some of my favorite scenes, and among those are the voyages on the Ringle - the quick trip to London, and especially the flight to the Berlings. There's a lightness and playfulness on the Ringle, a feelingof being let out of school, going from the harsh discipline and overcrowding aboard a man-of-war to the relative freedom of the smaller and more maneuverable craft. Reade's joy in his command, the expertise of the Shelmerstonians, Stephen's happiness at Brigid's awaken ...

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208 Re: GroupRead: The Commodore - POB and Pope -- rank: 669

We saw POB quoting Alexander Pope a while back. Now in "Commodore," Maturin, musing to himself as he tries to fall asleep, thinks: "Yet changed he [Maturin] had to some degree, of that there was no doubt: more and more, for example, it seemed to him that the proper study of mankind was man rather than beetle or even bird." Pope's famous poem, "An Essay on Man," has this passage in it, a passage wch might stand for Maturin himself:     The proper study of Mank ...

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209 Re: GroupRead: The Commodore - POB and Words -- rank: 669

I am amazed, no, I am dismayed at my ability to read an O 'Brian gem, and easily skip over it without second thought. Shame on me. alec > > >So what might have been Innis U=ED Cuinn (the island/inlet of the > Cuinn's) > > > >bacame Inchiquin. > > Thankee, sir. I did another google for Inchiquin pistole and found=20 > a German site , which stated (after the usual incomplete internet > translation: > > "Bzeichnung for the Irish Crowns, ...

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210 Re: GroupRead: The Commodore - POB and Words -- rank: 669

On Sun, 20 Apr 2003 01:25:09 +0100, Alec wrote: >So what might have been Innis Uí Cuinn (the island/inlet of the Ó Cuinn's) > >bacame Inchiquin. Thankee, sir. I did another google for Inchiquin pistole and found a German site , which stated (after the usual incomplete internet translation: "Bzeichnung for the Irish Crowns, Halfcrowns, Shillings, Ninepence, Sixpence and Groats, that were issued during the rebellion by 1642. This need money is named after lord Inchiquin, th ...

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