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211 Re: GroupRead: The Commodore - POB and Words -- rank: 669

Bheul- just to respond to a small segment of a great post. Inchiquin is pronounced the way it is written. Of course there is no 'Q' in the Irish language but with the unexpected arrival of those friendly English folk we started to use it! And the old and noble Irish name 'Ó Cuinn' became Quinn. By Law. 'Innis' is(In Irish) an island/or inlet, but the more enlightened among the new arrivals decided that the word 'Inch' fitted the bill so much better. So what might have been Innis Uí Cuinn ( ...

Poster's Name:	Alec O' Flaherty
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212 GroupRead: The Commodore - POB and Words -- rank: 669

Like many of us, maybe most of us, I haven't really been reading along with the group; spring seems like a busier than normal time. But Pawel's fine posts inspired me to at least pick up "The Commodore." Looking at random the first phrase which I saw was uttered by Hen Dundas (Norton paperback, page 7): ____________ ''Truer word you never spoke, dear Jack. But even if you had gold - you will never tell me you have gold, English gold, *Jack*? - it would take hours to tell out a ...

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Message Date:	2003-04-20 00:10:31 UTC

213 Re: GroupRead: "The Commodore" - a Conrad reference and somehumour -- rank: 669

on 4/16/03 2:16 PM, Larry & Wanda Finch at finches@BELLATLANTIC.NET wrote: > Not the only forward reference in the series; do lissuns recall some of the > others? Translated from some other language: When the bells justle in the tower The hollow night amid. Then on my tongue the taste is sour Of all I ever did.   a prequotion from AE Houseman There's glory for you.    lewis carroll It was the best hogweed    sort of lewis carroll        charlezzzzz

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Message Date:	2003-04-17 00:45:47 UTC

214 Re: GroupRead: "The Commodore" - a Conrad reference and somehumour -- rank: 669

Pawel Golik wrote: > In case you missed it: > there is a reference to Conrad in "The Commodore". In the conversation > between Stephen and John Square (Ch. 8, p. 202 Norton paperback) > 'Mr Klopstock, he dead' > which is a reference to 'Heart of Darkness' ('Mistah Kurtz--he dead.'), I've > always read it as bordering on parody, especially with the comical name of > the unfortunate Dutchman (does the name Klopstock sound comical to native > Englis ...

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Message Date:	2003-04-16 18:32:59 UTC

215 GroupRead: "The Commodore" - a Conrad reference and some humour -- rank: 669

In case you missed it:         there is a reference to Conrad in "The Commodore". In the conversation between Stephen and John Square (Ch. 8, p. 202 Norton paperback) 'Mr Klopstock, he dead' which is a reference to 'Heart of Darkness' ('Mistah Kurtz--he dead.'), I've always read it as bordering on parody, especially with the comical name of the unfortunate Dutchman (does the name Klopstock sound comical to native English speakers too?). And a few pages earlier we have the delig ...

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Message Date:	2003-04-16 17:09:26 UTC

216 Re: Groupread: The Commodore -- rank: 669

Glad that a Dr. is on board to give us the breakdown. As an anecdote, my father had brown hair, brown eyes, my mother had fine black hair---not raven tresses but definitely no brown at all, and very blue eyes. (Both parents were of Swedish descent.) I had blonde hair and brown eyes but later on had brown hair. Sister had blonde hair and blue eyes forever. She is the spitting image of my mother's mother and her son is the spitting image of my father. Littlest sister had brown hair and very ...

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Message Date:	2003-04-15 16:02:02 UTC

217 Re: Groupread: The Commodore -- rank: 669

On Tuesday 15 of April 2003 17:11, Doug Essinger-Hileman wrote: > Yes, Katherine, it is possible for two dark-haired people to have a > blond child. Blond hair is a recessive characteristic, which means > that it will only show if both the person's inherited genes are for > blond hair. If both parents have dark hair, with each having a > recessive blond gene, then, statistically, 1 in 4 children will have > blond hair. Assuming that it is a single-gene trait, which is a ...

Poster's Name:	Pawel Golik
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Message Date:	2003-04-15 15:40:05 UTC

218 Re: Groupread: The Commodore -- rank: 669

On 15 Apr 2003 at 10:48, Pawel Golik wrote: > True, darker colour (in hair, eyes etc.) is dominant. And, if > I remember > correctly, Diana has blue eyes - a most unusual trait in dark-haired > people. I have blond hair -- and it was very, very blond when I was a child. Combined with my brown eyes, a trait as unusual in blond-haired folk as blue eyes is in dark-haired folk, this elicited the usual jokes about the milkman. Doug

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Message Date:	2003-04-15 15:28:54 UTC

219 Re: Groupread: The Commodore -- rank: 669

On 14 Apr 2003 at 21:17, Katherine Tharp wrote: > I've been wondering why, when Stephen and Diana both have dark hair, > Brigid's hair is pale blond. All I can remember about genetics is > some pictures of black cows, white cows and spotted cows. Is it > possible for two dark-haired people to have a blond child, or has > Jagiello perhaps been in the neighborhood? Yes, Katherine, it is possible for two dark-haired people to have a blond child. Blond hair is a recessive char ...

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Message Date:	2003-04-15 15:28:40 UTC

220 Re: Groupread: The Commodore -- rank: 669

Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 22:35:08 -0600 From: andrea <dr.andreas@ATTGLOBAL.NET> Subject: Re: Groupread: The Commodore Fie upon you for making such an accusation! Thanks for clearing that up. I never should have doubted. I enjoyed your chart and it actually makes sense. If my science teachers had used more interesting examples than cows, I might have paid more attention in school. This list is certainly educational. Katherine T

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221 Re: Groupread: The Commodore -- rank: 669

In a message dated 4/14/03 9:18:25 PM, mkt@stompit.net writes: > Is it possible for two dark-haired people to have a blond child, or has > Jagiello perhaps been in the neighborhood? > > My husband is black-eyed, and black haired and comes from dark haired parents. I am swarthy and dark-haired, and yet our youngest was a bright, bright blond until he was almost four. People used to exclaim over it so often that I finally started answering "Yes, and even the mailman has ...

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222 Re: Groupread: The Commodore -- rank: 669

In a message dated 4/15/03 3:49:03 AM, pgolik@ibb.waw.pl writes: > Was Diana's hair natural? > Of course it was! How could you ask such a thing! Sarah

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223 Re: Groupread: The Commodore -- rank: 669

On Tuesday 15 of April 2003 13:45, Linda C. DeMars wrote: > There is a passagein the Commodore (I think) where Stephen is dreaming of > seeing Diana and his daughter and he imagines a small fairhaired child. Did > he just assume the child would have fair hair or had Diana writen him? For > that matter, how did he know he had a daughter and what her name was? I don't think Diana wrote any letters after giving birth to Brigid. I've always read those passages as projections of Ste ...

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Message Date:	2003-04-15 12:49:27 UTC

224 Re: Groupread: The Commodore -- rank: 669

There is a passagein the Commodore (I think) where Stephen is dreaming of seeing Diana and his daughter and he imagines a small fairhaired child. Did he just assume the child would have fair hair or had Diana writen him? For that matter, how did he know he had a daughter and what her name was? Some of those letters exchanged between the Lines? Linda C. DeMars > >> in young children hair is often of lighter > colour >> than the one they have as adults, >

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225 Re: Groupread: The Commodore -- rank: 669

----- Original Message ----- From: "Pawel Golik" <pgolik@ibb.waw.pl> > On Tuesday 15 of April 2003 06:35, andrea wrote: > > > Remembering from my very long ago genetics class blond hair is a recessive > > trait, brown is dominant, you can be carying a gene for blond hair but if > > the other gene in the pair is brown your hair will come out brown-however > > the blond gene is still there and can be one of the pair you donate to a > > ...

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Message Date:	2003-04-15 10:58:09 UTC