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61 Re: Revising the Canon, the Commodore et al. -- rank: 864

As John Dillinger used to say to various Midwestern bank employees: 'It's a pleasure doing business with you.' Rusty

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62 Re: Revising the Canon, the Commodore et al. -- rank: 864

At 08:13 PM -0800 12/30/96, Batrinque@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 96-12-30 23:02:23 EST, you write: > ><< Several listwains have voiced envy of those > starting the series anew; can I get any seconds on the virtues of > rereading? > >> > >The books were excellent the first time, better the second, and -- yes -- >even improved the third. Re-reading is a richer experience because the >subtle shadings and foreshadowing become clearer. How much POB ...

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63 Re: Revising/Rereading the Canon, the Commodore et al. -- rank: 864

I heartily recommend re-reading (or as in my case, re-listening.) The first time through one is more concerned with the action, plot development, surprises, discovery, etc. The second time around many more of the subleties come out, particularly in slightly off-plot discourses, or in descriptive or throw-away type phrases. John Donohue Evanston, IL

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Message Date:	1996-12-31 15:55:46 UTC

64 Re: Revising the Canon, the Commodore et al. -- rank: 864

In a message dated 96-12-30 23:02:23 EST, you write: << Several listwains have voiced envy of those starting the series anew; can I get any seconds on the virtues of rereading? >> The books were excellent the first time, better the second, and -- yes -- even improved the third. Re-reading is a richer experience because the subtle shadings and foreshadowing become clearer. How much POB has had in mind since the beginning and what has evolved along the way is perhaps the subjec ...

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65 Revising the Canon, the Commodore et al. -- rank: 864

I doubt a wholesale revision is in the cards, given the cost. If one were done, Given the discussions on the virtues of variuos passages, it seems that removal of one reader's flaws would perhaps obliterate the virtues that attracted another. I think it would be more to the point to remove the bits that reintroduce the characters at the beginning of each book, with the basis that, once that 20th book is done, the point that many have made, that the series is really one long work, will have even ...

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66 Re: Spoilers The Commodore -- rank: 669

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Andrew Williams <ajw832_at_gmail.com> wrote: > I do find that The Master seems to have ebbs and flows to his series. Some > storylines end and others start up. Must say I did not have the feeling > that the Commodore was the end of the series, but I think it was the end of > a story line. Roman fleuves have both shoals and deep channels I guess. > Wine Dark Sea was the end of one such story line that began with TGS (and originally was ...

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67 Spoilers The Commodore -- rank: 669

I do find that The Master seems to have ebbs and flows to his series. Some storylines end and others start up. Must say I did not have the feeling that the Commodore was the end of the series, but I think it was the end of a story line. Roman fleuves have both shoals and deep channels I guess. Andrew To be removed from the GUNROOM list send a blank message to UNSUBSCRIBE-GUNROOM_at_HMSSURPRISE.ORG (Please remove this message when replying)

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68 SPOILERS The Commodore -- rank: 669

While the gunroom seems to be an interrogative mood, let me pose a question that I've wondered about. The conclusion of The Commodore seems very climactic to me, and it seems to wrap up some plot points that had been going on for awhile. When I first read it, I think I would have wondered if it was intended as a finale to the series-- however, it was only a few years ago that I read the canon for the first time, so I knew that the series continued. Of course, I'm happy POB kept writing! ...

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69 Re: The Commodore -- rank: 669

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Terry Zobeck <Turtle15_at_cox.net> wrote: > [THE COMMODORE] was published in Britain on September 5, 1994 and in the > United States on April 10, 1995... In April 1995 I was browsing in the Harvard Coop Bookstore and noticed a display for the just released Commodore. I was immediately captivated by Geoff Hunt's cover illustration and went over to the O section in fiction to find more than a dozen nautical fiction books by the same author. I h ...

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70 Re: The Commodore -- rank: 669

Only for reference works. For pleasure reading, it's the Kindle as my first choice. But then, I'm not a one-book-at-a-time reader. I like to read several books simultaneously, and coping with stacks of books sliding and falling all over the place is too annoying. I also like the sampling feature of the Kindle that allows me to download several pages of a book I am considering.I've saved a lot of money over the years by reading a sample and realizing the book is not for me. The money I've ...

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71 Re: The Commodore -- rank: 669

The other day I walked into a mobile phone service provider's shop here in Bournemouth, UK, - a very well known provider, most recently for its tax-avoidance schemes. An anxious young man approached me, asking what I needed help with and tentatively entered the details onto an iPad, reading off an appointment time to consult with an 'associate' in 20 minutes. I browsed the shop and waited. After a few minutes i noticed him with another customer, stabbing his fingers at the iPad screen, i ...

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72 Re: The Commodore -- rank: 669

"As an aside, I have come to realize the main irritant of Kindle is the lack of a physical frame of reference for what is left to read, to either savour or to finish off. Kindle provides a percentage to completion which has no context for me. Regrettably travel dictates few physical books or confront baggage fees, hence Kindle has its purpose." Don, Thanks for your thoughts. Your aside takes us in another interesting direction: I used to be a computer programmer in my early work ...

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73 Re: The Commodore -- rank: 669

Terry Thank you for your views on the notes contained in the Lilley library. I had not realized POB organised his notes as such. A visit seems well worth while to better understand his methods. Alan I think my reaction is similar to most; I savour a good book, enjoying each page, and as a result prefer big meaty books . Moby Dick is one such favourite and obviously the canon. I don't know what is a preferred size,  other that than when ended I wish for more. On the other hand cheap and ...

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74 Re: The Commodore -- rank: 669

The extra P stand for Perpetual. Which means once you start reading POB, everything else is a bit boring and unfulfilling. So you read the canon, over and over, and over, and it never gets old.

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75 Re: The Commodore -- rank: 669

"I used to advise my students: If you’re writing a book, write and revise, write and revise, until you think you’ve got it right, and then start cutting. Cut out all you can spare." Thanks Charles; words of wisdom, undoubtedly. I do revise, revise and revise some more, and that will, I hope, bring an enduring quality to Book Two particularly. The second part is always harder but I am getting the hang of it! Alan On 12 August 2015 at 16:57, Charlezzzzz <charlezzzzz_at_com ...

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