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76 Re: Thoughts on BATM (Was: The Commodore) -- rank: 669

Well said, Stuart. Much to enjoy, but not the same. It echos life in a way, doesn't it?

Poster's Name:	Debbie DeVioleta
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Message Date:	2015-08-12 17:37:56 UTC

77 Re: The Commodore -- rank: 669

> On Aug 12, 2015, at 3:31 AM, alan lawrence <alan.lawrence.author_at_GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > I think for my own books, first one about 160,000 words, second one > targeted at that, are they too long? Opinions will be appreciated. There are a few places on the internet where you can get the word-counts of some favorite books. Here are four examples of great novels: War and Peace 587 thousand words Moby Dick 206 thousand words Pride and Prejudice 120 thousand words Red B ...

Poster's Name:	Charlezzzzz
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Message Date:	2015-08-12 15:58:10 UTC

78 Re: The Commodore -- rank: 669

"I seem to recall that for the later books his targeted word count was somewhere between 80,000 and 100,000 words." The last 3 were in that range. "Somebody at Random House told me that the average novel was around 70,000 words." Possibly they meant the *average* novel... not the average *POB* novel. The average length of the series (20 books exc. no. 21) is 114,000 words, The longest (no.2) 168,000, The shortest (no.20) 87,000. The average of the first ten is 127,00 ...

Poster's Name:	alan lawrence
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Message Date:	2015-08-12 07:32:22 UTC

79 Re: The Commodore -- rank: 669

> On Aug 11, 2015, at 9:45 PM, Terry Zobeck <Turtle15_at_COX.NET> wrote: > > I seem to recall that for the later books his targeted word count was somewhere between 80,000 and 100,000 words. Fascinating, Terry. Thanks. Somebody at Random House told me that the average novel was around 70,000 words. And I believe the average reader (surely Lissuns are way above average) reads at about 250 words a minute, which is (I think) about twice as fast as we speak. I just checked the ...

Poster's Name:	Charlezzzzz
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Message Date:	2015-08-12 03:26:35 UTC

80 Re: The Commodore -- rank: 669

A few years ago I spent three days at the Lilly Library with O'Brian's papers. I eventually obtained copies of all of the material except for the manuscripts of the novels--the copying costs were a bit prohibitive. Don's message sent me upstairs to pull down the box of all this material--I still haven't gone through it all in great detail. The notes for the Commodore are interesting. The earliest date is December 11, 1992 (written as 11 xii 92). The page is headed "General tho ...

Poster's Name:	Terry Zobeck
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Message Date:	2015-08-12 01:44:58 UTC

81 Thoughts on BATM (Was: The Commodore) -- rank: 669

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 09:29:47 -0400, Don Seltzer <timoneer_at_GMAIL.COM> wrote: >That left POB the choice of just making up naval missions and battles, and >it is here that I believe he began to falter. He once wrote with pride >that his naval actions were closely based upon real events, giving them the >ring of authenticity. The last battle in WDS, the squadron actions off of >Africa, and the final battle in Irish waters do not have this historical >underpinning. In ...

Poster's Name:	Stuart Burnfield
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Message Date:	2015-08-11 14:15:58 UTC

82 Re: The Commodore -- rank: 669

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:40 AM, don myatt <topsails_at_gmail.com> wrote: > Can anyone tell when and where PPOB wrote the Commodore and if possible the > reference for this info? > In addition, when did the events in it take place? It appears to be 1812? > Digging into the archives, I found these comments that I posted during a group read in 2003: There are notes for COM in the POB collection at the Lilly Library, Bloomington IN, but I have not seen them. There are a fe ...

Poster's Name:	Don Seltzer
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Message Date:	2015-08-11 13:30:35 UTC

83 Re: The Commodore -- rank: 669

Thank you Adam don On 11 August 2015 at 08:01, Adam Quinan <hms.bee_at_gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:40 AM, don myatt <topsails_at_gmail.com> wrote: > > > Can anyone tell when and where PPOB wrote the Commodore and if possible > the > > reference for this info? > > In addition, when did the events in it take place? It appears to be 1812? > > > > > The Commodore was published in 1995 according to Wikipedia. It was pr ...

Poster's Name:	don myatt
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Message Date:	2015-08-11 12:54:03 UTC

84 Re: The Commodore -- rank: 669

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 4:40 AM, don myatt <topsails_at_gmail.com> wrote: > Can anyone tell when and where PPOB wrote the Commodore and if possible the > reference for this info? > In addition, when did the events in it take place? It appears to be 1812? > > The Commodore was published in 1995 according to Wikipedia. It was probably written at POB's home in Collioure. It dates during the everlasting POB year of 1812 which ended in The Yellow Admiral, the next book i ...

Poster's Name:	Adam Quinan
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Message Date:	2015-08-11 12:02:03 UTC

85 The Commodore -- rank: 669

Can anyone tell when and where PPOB wrote the Commodore and if possible the reference for this info? In addition, when did the events in it take place? It appears to be 1812? T ​hank you all, donM​ To be removed from the GUNROOM list send a blank message to UNSUBSCRIBE-GUNROOM_at_HMSSURPRISE.ORG (Please remove this message when replying)

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Message Date:	2015-08-11 08:41:09 UTC

86 Re: The Commodore: What Joy! -- rank: 669

Very well done John! Dave H. On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 11:53 AM, G. John Marmet <gjohnmarmet_at_gmail.com> wrote: > Thankee mam, thankee. This may be my second and I covet each one. > > Y'r H'mble Servant, Jno.Marmet (N42º4'19" W87º51'22") > > > To be removed from the GUNROOM list send a blank message to > UNSUBSCRIBE-GUNROOM_at_HMSSURPRISE.ORG > (Please remove this message when replying) >

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Message Date:	2014-09-06 21:16:34 UTC

87 Re: The Commodore: What Joy! -- rank: 669

Thankee mam, thankee. This may be my second and I covet each one. Y'r H'mble Servant, Jno.Marmet (N42º4'19" W87º51'22") To be removed from the GUNROOM list send a blank message to UNSUBSCRIBE-GUNROOM_at_HMSSURPRISE.ORG (Please remove this message when replying)

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Message Date:	2014-09-06 16:54:16 UTC

88 Re: The Commodore: What Joy! -- rank: 669

Congratulations, G John - You are hereby awarded POST OF THE DAY! On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Debbie DeVioleta <debbie.devioleta_at_gmail.com > wrote: > I love that scene. :) > > -- > Debbie DeVioleta > 33° 3' 19" -96° 43' 59" > > > On Sep 4, 2014, at 4:20 PM, "G. John Marmet" <gjohnmarmet_at_GMAIL.COM> > wrote: > > > > Another example of the Master's skill, and something I missed until this > my > & ...

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Message Date:	2014-09-06 15:00:25 UTC

89 Re: The Commodore: What Joy! -- rank: 669

I love that scene. :)

Poster's Name:	Debbie DeVioleta
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Message Date:	2014-09-06 00:52:51 UTC

90 Re: The Commodore: What Joy! -- rank: 669

I had forgotten that scene completely, but I've read the book only once so far. I was surprised to see how close the Irish numbers are to the Latin ones (or Latin-derived ones as in Italian or Catalan). Why, the words are practically the same! On Sep 5, 2014 1:57 AM, "Linnea Angermuller" <linneaangermuller_at_gmail.com> wrote: > I second that. I remember that scene, too, but I didn't remember how > Stephen "set that up," the clever fox. > > ~~Linne ...

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Message Date:	2014-09-05 19:30:22 UTC