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106 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations -- rank: 873

See Justin's post in this thread - he puts it all in context. Gary McCormick 37:22:38N 122:01:30W Vanessa Brown wrote: > svgkm@HALLEY.CA.ESSD.NORTHGRUM.COM writes: > > >Aah - yes; it does seem odd that Stephen should have to ask the question - > but > >his absent-mindedness is famous. Then again, it may have been a case of > making > >polite conversation in a social situation, even if one knows good and well > the > >answer to the question pos ...

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107 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations -- rank: 873

svgkm@HALLEY.CA.ESSD.NORTHGRUM.COM writes: >Aah - yes; it does seem odd that Stephen should have to ask the question - but >his absent-mindedness is famous. Then again, it may have been a case of making >polite conversation in a social situation, even if one knows good and well the >answer to the question posed - and has asked it only as a catalyst to >conversation. This is all wrong. Why is Stephen questioning the boy. He has said many times he considers question and ...

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108 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations -- rank: 873

Katherine S. wrote: <<H'm. I'm at work so I haven't the book with me, but my rememberance of the context of the convo is that Stephen asked the question just after Phillip had disparaged Mrs. William's character. I read it as Stephen's rather roundabout way (given how much he dislikes q & a) of finding out how close Phillip feels to her. A young man who spent most of his time ashore with his half-brother's family, and had little to no contact with his "natural" mo ...

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109 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations -- rank: 873

Good and virtuous? Mrs. Williams? Never in life! Malignant, obstinant, suspicious, pinchpenny and deeply stupid - but virtuous? Gary McCormick 37:22:38N 122:01:30W Kat Sherman wrote: > <snip> > > Katherine S. > viciously slandering those good, virtuous women, Mrs. > Williams and the second Mrs. Aubrey > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ...

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110 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations -- rank: 873

>Aah - yes; it does seem odd that Stephen should have >to ask the question - but his absent-mindedness is >famous. Then again, it may have been a case of making >polite conversation in a social situation, even if >one knows good and well the answer to the question >posed - and has asked it only as a catalyst to >conversation. >I missed the grandfather thing entirely - through >three readings of the Canon! >Gary McCormick >37:22:38N 122:01:30W <snip ...

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111 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations (SPOILER?) -- rank: 873

Perhaps the lads are from a previous marriage--or were born under the bar sinister, as it were, similar to Jack's black son. Randal O'ahu >>> dr_gary@AGBFINEBOOKS.COM 2/4/2004 6:47:08 AM >>> Gerry Strey wrote: > >This is all of a piece with Fanny Harte being the Admiral's only child >and yet in LOM Jack meeting with Harte's very scrubbish son at sea. > >Gerry Strey >Madison, Wisconsin > > POB got himself, his editors and his readers badly ...

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112 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations -- rank: 873

On 4 Feb 2004 at 14:28, Matter, Justin wrote: > Sue C wrote: > <<In chapter 8 of The Yellow Admiral Stephen and Phillip Aubrey are > discussing the charms of Sophie's mother, Mrs Williams: > > Stephen: 'Mrs Williams is no blood-relation of yours, I believe?' > Phillip: 'No, sir. My grandfather, the General, married again after > Jack's mother died: she was called Stanhope. And I come from the > second marriage, so when Jack married Sophie Williams, that didn ...

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113 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations (SPOILER?) -- rank: 873

But--but Charlezzzzz said that POB never nods! I was instructed gently by several senior lissuns when, some months ago, brought up the incident of the mutiny and the apparent murder of the Surprise's captain (while Jack is in command of the Worcester) in the Ionian Mission (I think)--that this is being referred to in the past, and there is no mention of it in the appropriate spot in the plot sequence. Randal, nodding himself this time of morning --which it is morning here O'ahu >> ...

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114 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations -- rank: 873

Aah - yes; it does seem odd that Stephen should have to ask the question - but his absent-mindedness is famous. Then again, it may have been a case of making polite conversation in a social situation, even if one knows good and well the answer to the question posed - and has asked it only as a catalyst to conversation. I missed the grandfather thing entirely - through three readings of the Canon! Gary McCormick 37:22:38N 122:01:30W Sue Northcott wrote: > I suppose it was the fact th ...

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115 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations -- rank: 873

Sue C wrote: <<In chapter 8 of The Yellow Admiral Stephen and Phillip Aubrey are discussing the charms of Sophie's mother, Mrs Williams: Stephen: 'Mrs Williams is no blood-relation of yours, I believe?' Phillip: 'No, sir. My grandfather, the General, married again after Jack's mother died: she was called Stanhope. And I come from the second marriage, so when Jack married Sophie Williams, that didn't make her mother any relation of mine.' This seems a strange conversation to me, any ...

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116 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations -- rank: 873

I suppose it was the fact that Stephen, who had know the family intimately for so long, had to ask the question in the first place. But then, with reflection, that's Stephen all over, isn't it. Then there was the question of grandfathers. Sue On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 08:06:43 -0800, Gary K. McCormick <svgkm@HALLEY.CA.ESSD.NORTHGRUM.COM> wrote: >What strikes you strange about the conversation, Sue? Young Phillip Aubrey >described the situation in a very straight-forward fashion, I t ...

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117 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations (SPOILER?) -- rank: 873

Gerry Strey wrote: > >This is all of a piece with Fanny Harte being the Admiral's only child >and yet in LOM Jack meeting with Harte's very scrubbish son at sea. > >Gerry Strey >Madison, Wisconsin > > POB got himself, his editors and his readers badly confused with Admiral Harte. Throughout the series up 'til his death, he's indeed Admiral Harte, married to the generous Molly and with a single child and heiress Fanny. But after he's dead, POB tells us he had ...

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118 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations -- rank: 873

>What strikes you strange about the conversation, Sue? Young Phillip >Aubrey >described the situation in a very straight-forward fashion, I >thought. His >half-brother's mother-in-law is no relation of his. > >Gary McCormick >37:22:38N 122:01:30W > Possibly the part where Philip refers to his father as his grandfather. Which reminds me of a song:] I'm My Own Grandpa ( Lonzo & Oscar ) It sounds funny, I know, But it really is so, Oh, I'm my own grand ...

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119 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations -- rank: 873

What strikes you strange about the conversation, Sue? Young Phillip Aubrey described the situation in a very straight-forward fashion, I thought. His half-brother's mother-in-law is no relation of his. Gary McCormick 37:22:38N 122:01:30W Sue Northcott wrote: > In chapter 8 of The Yellow Admiral Stephen and Phillip Aubrey are > discussing the charms of Sophie's mother, Mrs Williams: > > Stephen: 'Mrs Williams is no blood-relation of yours, I believe?' > Phillip: 'No, sir ...

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120 Re: The Yellow Admiral - relations (SPOILER?) -- rank: 873

At 10:24 AM 2/4/2004 -0500, Batrinque@AOL.COM wrote: >The OED shows "mother-in-law" as a synonym for "stepmother" as far back as >1516 and continuing in use at least until the novels of Thackerey. I suspect >POB may have been indulging in his penchant for using obscure secondary >meanings >of familiar words in seemingly inappropriate ways. That usage has interesting possibilities. Imagine parents reading bedtime stories to their children, such as the c ...

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