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451 Re: BatM spoiler -- rank: 633

Chris Forrester wrote: > Are we talking Prince Charles here or Prince Andrew who served as a > helicopter pilot in the Falklands war. > ... A very brave and honourable man he is too, risking life and limb with the other naval pilots to do his duty. > I can not recall Prince Charles ever doing anything of even the remotest equivalent. Prince Charles was a serving officer at a time when the UK Armed Forces were not engaged, as they were when his brother was a combat helicopter p ...

Poster's Name:	Jay Reay
Poster's Email:	justin.reay@WHICH.NET
Message Date:	2000-06-12 16:33:58 UTC

452 Re: BatM spoiler -- rank: 633

Are we talking Prince Charles here or Prince Andrew who served as a helicopter pilot in the Falklands war. I believe from a friend who served with him he was called Windsor and was Andy to his friends and crew while off duty. A very brave and honourable man he is too, risking life and limb with the other naval pilots to do his duty. I can not recall Prince Charles ever doing anything of even the remotest equivalent. Christine Forrester N 52*59' W02*19' ----- Original Message ----- Fro ...

Poster's Name:	Chris Forrester
Poster's Email:	christine@FORRESTER11.FREESERVE.CO.UK
Message Date:	2000-06-12 15:29:40 UTC

453 Re: BatM spoiler -- rank: 633

Regarding promotion of admirals, it seems to me that there were rather a lot on hand at any one time. What proportion would actually be employed an how? Gerry Strey Madison, Wisconsin

Poster's Name:	Gerry Strey
Poster's Email:	gestrey@MAIL.SHSW.WISC.EDU
Message Date:	2000-06-12 13:55:06 UTC

454 Re: BatM spoiler -- rank: 633

At 9:51 PM -0700 6/10/0, Eric A. Ladner wrote: >At 10:21 PM -0400 6/10/00, Don Seltzer wrote: >>Scanning through the flag promotion tables in Clowes, I couldn't spot a >>single instance of a captain being promoted to admiral before his turn, >>during the period of the Napoleonic wars. Our royal friend Clarence was >>the only exception. > > >Amazing: a no favoritism system that was actually adhered to. Of >course there was plenty of favoritism in g ...

Poster's Name:	Don Seltzer
Poster's Email:	dseltzer@DRAPER.COM
Message Date:	2000-06-12 00:51:49 UTC

455 Re: BatM spoiler -- rank: 633

"Eric A. Ladner" wrote: > The image of a senior officer addressing a brand new lieutenant, who just happens to be of the royal family, but who has just screwed up badly, as "Sir" is a little hard to conjure up. Of course, maybe that's when extreme formality is most necessary! > Eric, in such an unusual - but not unlikely - case the senior officer would use the rank to addres the offender, without surname. Of course, more junior ranks are also adept at putting a spi ...

Poster's Name:	Jay Reay
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Message Date:	2000-06-11 09:45:50 UTC

456 Re: BatM spoiler -- rank: 633

At 10:05 PM +0100 6/10/00, Jay Reay wrote: >Not privy to the actuality of serving with him, I imagine he would be >referred to by his rank at the time or just "Sir" when on duty in >informal circumstances, Your/His Royal Highness at ceremonial events. >Like all officers of the rank he achieved, Lieutentant-Commander, he >would be addressed in daily speech as Commander. Thanks Jay... I guess what I have trouble visualizing is when the disparity in royal rank and s ...

Poster's Name:	Eric A. Ladner
Poster's Email:	eladner@DNAI.COM
Message Date:	2000-06-11 04:53:28 UTC

457 Re: BatM spoiler -- rank: 633

At 10:21 PM -0400 6/10/00, Don Seltzer wrote: >Scanning through the flag promotion tables in Clowes, I couldn't spot a >single instance of a captain being promoted to admiral before his turn, >during the period of the Napoleonic wars. Our royal friend Clarence was >the only exception. Amazing: a no favoritism system that was actually adhered to. Of course there was plenty of favoritism in getting onto the list, and in when you did. Thanks Don. - EAL

Poster's Name:	Eric A. Ladner
Poster's Email:	eladner@DNAI.COM
Message Date:	2000-06-11 04:53:28 UTC

458 Re: BatM spoiler -- rank: 633

At 1:20 PM -0700 6/10/0, Eric A. Ladner wrote: >If it's come up in previous discussions of Jack's promotion, I've >missed it: were there EVER exceptions to the seniority rule for >promotion to admiral? For example, COULD Prince William's influence >have bumped a captain up the list, as thanks for taking his son to >sea? Scanning through the flag promotion tables in Clowes, I couldn't spot a single instance of a captain being promoted to admiral before his turn, during the ...

Poster's Name:	Don Seltzer
Poster's Email:	dseltzer@DRAPER.COM
Message Date:	2000-06-11 02:22:47 UTC

459 Re: BatM spoiler -- rank: 633

"Eric A. Ladner" wrote passim: > ... how was Prince Charles addressed while on active duty? Mr. Windsor? Mr. Wales? Or is the old "incognito" tradition of using a lesser title still used? Mr. Cornwall?] > Not privy to the actuality of serving with him, I imagine he would be referred to by his rank at the time or just "Sir" when on duty in informal circumstances, Your/His Royal Highness at ceremonial events. Like all officers of the rank he achieved, Li ...

Poster's Name:	Jay Reay
Poster's Email:	justin.reay@WHICH.NET
Message Date:	2000-06-10 21:03:27 UTC

460 BatM spoiler -- rank: 633

If it's come up in previous discussions of Jack's promotion, I've missed it: were there EVER exceptions to the seniority rule for promotion to admiral? For example, COULD Prince William's influence have bumped a captain up the list, as thanks for taking his son to sea? [The only exceptions I know of are members of the royal family, and I don't think they normally function at their exalted ex officio ranks. Prince Phillip is a Field Marshal, but wasn't George II the last monarch to person ...

Poster's Name:	Eric A. Ladner
Poster's Email:	eladner@DNAI.COM
Message Date:	2000-06-10 20:22:22 UTC

461 Re: Intermediate chapter (BATM Spoiler) -- rank: 633

--- pierangelo celle <pngcll@yahoo.com> wrote: > I remember that - before the publishing of BATM - > someone passed on to this forum the information that > the proofs of the book had been returned to POB, who > had added an intermediate chapter between IX and X, > and wondered what such chapter could contain to > justify such a last minute addendum. > I have now read BATM and I think the intermediate > chapter adds very little, but the death of Lindsay > ...

Poster's Name:	Susan Wenger
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Message Date:	2000-05-25 13:25:06 UTC

462 Intermediate chapter (BATM Spoiler) -- rank: 633

I remember that - before the publishing of BATM - someone passed on to this forum the information that the proofs of the book had been returned to POB, who had added an intermediate chapter between IX and X, and wondered what such chapter could contain to justify such a last minute addendum. I have now read BATM and I think the intermediate chapter adds very little, but the death of Lindsay (which is dealt with in a rather off-hand fashion). Does anybody have any idea on the possible re ...

Poster's Name:	pierangelo celle
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Message Date:	2000-05-23 17:03:59 UTC

463 Re: A very little something for McKenna and a small BATM spoiler -- rank: 633

> From: Patrick O'Brian Main List > They are watching the > "splendid wealth of birds on the water" which includes among many > others the > "white-faced tree-duck" an admirable water fowl which from its > name alone I > suppose to be related in habits if not DNA to the ducks outside McKenna's > window. Have you got the spelling corrct, there?

Poster's Name:	Peter Mackay
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Message Date:	2000-05-13 01:31:34 UTC

464 A very little something for McKenna and a small BATM spoiler -- rank: 633

I am just now reading "Blue at he Mizzen" for the first time. I put my name on the waiting list for our library's single copy last year just after it was published. I was told I was fourth on the list and I calculated that I would be reading it around Christmas assuming a normal 2 weeks for each person in line before me. Well, those grass combing b***ers must have made little shrines to the book and worshipped it for weeks in some sacred corner of their homes, since by early A ...

Poster's Name:	Mary Arndt
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Message Date:	2000-05-11 16:26:11 UTC

465 Re: [SeaRoom] Joseph Edward Smoot [BATM spoilers] -- rank: 633

In a message dated 4/28/0 10:46:19 PM, hdouglass@bigpond.com writes: << The Smoot referred to was indeed the Smoot of the Smoot-Hawley tariff. The poet Nash pillored him in the following verse: >> It's nice that the barky is up again, and some of the older threads still show life. Fun to read about that wicked Smoot creature. I started (and have just abandoned) a poem on the Poetic Trumpet of Ogden Nash. When Nash smote Smoot Smoot gnashed his tooth. Smoot was a brute: Na ...

Poster's Name:	Charles Munoz
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Message Date:	2000-04-29 16:19:52 UTC