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526 Re: JBS <minor BATM spoiler> -- rank: 633

>> Does anybody know the name of the next Patrick O'Brian book >> or what it is >> about? >Peter Mackay wrote: >I believe it is called The Jet Black Shore and has HMS Surprise putting down >a series of native rebellions. It draws heavily on the plot of Biggles In >Africa. > >Of course, the Surprise puts in to see Stephen's inamorata on a regular >basis. I've only had the chance to read the proofs for the first two chapters, but the west to east p ...

Poster's Name:	Don Seltzer
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Message Date:	1999-12-10 01:45:34 UTC

527 JBS <minor BATM spoiler> -- rank: 633

> From: P. Richman [mailto:p_richman@HOTMAIL.COM] > > > Does anybody know the name of the next Patrick O'Brian book > or what it is > about? I believe it is called The Jet Black Shore and has HMS Surprise putting down a series of native rebellions. It draws heavily on the plot of Biggles In Africa. Of course, the Surprise puts in to see Stephen's inamorata on a regular basis. I have the Honour to be Mate your Obedient servant Peter Mackay 35° 17' 30" S, 1 ...

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Message Date:	1999-12-10 01:22:43 UTC

528 Re: War in Fiction/LOM/THD/BATM spoilers -- rank: 633

Gerry Strey wrote: LOM/THD/BATM spoilers: > > > > > > > > > > > >[LOM] Doesn't it have two fairly detailed battle scenes--the harbor >cutting out and the Spartan/Azul battle? The cutting out of the Diane is on the same level as his earlier writing. But it is a surprise boat operation (pun only realized after the fact), not a ship to ship combat that is the staple of so many other writers of naval fiction. More and more, POB's pen has told ...

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529 Re: Minor BATM SPOILER -- rank: 633

That scene that Bruce mentioned impressed me as well, for a slightly different reason. It seemed so cinematic. In my mind's eye, I could see him walking into the square, the people moving anti-clockwise, the ordered ranks of troops moving through the square, sweeping all away, and in the resulting silence, the solitary officer moving through the debris. With a sweeping camera move, it could be a stunner. Bill Peschel

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Message Date:	1999-12-09 19:08:55 UTC

530 SS. A theme for POB short stories: tiny BATM spoiler -- rank: 633

In a message dated 12/9/99 8:25:35 AM, LarryFinch@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes: << Here in the space of a few pages Jack descends into an > unfamiliar world with the old truths discarded. >> Remarkable! I cdn't find a better brief summary for many of the short stories, but Larry was talking about a scene in BATM.      Charlezzzz

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Message Date:	1999-12-09 17:14:33 UTC

531 Re: Minor BATM SPOILER -- rank: 633

A >>>instead) would drain the scene of much of its power. > >The technical term is "widdershins". Thus the OED: > >withershin(s), widdershin(s), a. >[f. the adv.] >Moving in an anticlockwise direction, contrary to the apparent course >of the sun (considered as unlucky or sinister); unlucky, ill-fated,   n.b. >1936 Dylan Thomas Twenty-Five Poems 16 Shall I still be love’s house >on the widdershin earth, Woe to the windy mansions at my shel ...

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Message Date:	1999-12-09 14:48:32 UTC

532 Re: Minor BATM SPOILER -- rank: 633

adding to the insight: at intermission time, the Berlin Staatsoperhaus audience moves to the Promenade floor and swirls in a great anticlockwise elliptical mass. I recovered from my suprise to realize suddenly that may be why it got that name. Is this done elsewhere? John   At 06:58 AM 12/9/1999 -0500, u1c04803 wrote: >>BATM SPOILER of a minor sort BELOW >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ...

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533 Re: Minor BATM SPOILER -- rank: 633

Batrinque@AOL.COM wrote: > BATM SPOILER of a minor sort BELOW > What an interesting observation! I hadn't noticed that. Dancing anti-clockwise ("widdershins") around a bonfire was an activity attributed to witches. It's also the direction you are supposed to circumnavigate a church, but this is probably not what POB was thinking. Of course, the trip upriver in "Apocalypse Now" originated as the trip upriver in Conrad's "Heart of Darkness." Larry > ...

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Message Date:	1999-12-09 13:27:58 UTC

534 Re: Minor BATM SPOILER -- rank: 633

Bruce Trinque wrote: >>I am not entirely clear in my own mind why this should be, but I find the >>passage in BATM dealing with Jack's walk down into town after dinner with >>Lord Barmouth more than a little unsettling. There is something to it which >>reminds me of -- to use a cinematic reference -- the trip upriver in >>"Apocalypse Now". Here in the space of a few pages Jack descends into an >>unfamiliar world with the old truths disca ...

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Message Date:	1999-12-09 12:10:44 UTC

535 Re: Minor BATM SPOILER -- rank: 633

>BATM SPOILER of a minor sort BELOW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I am not entirely clear in my own mind why this should be, but I find the >passage in BATM dealing with Jack's walk down into town after dinner with >Lord Barmouth more than a little unsettling. There is something to it which >reminds me of -- to use a cinematic reference -- the trip upriver in >"Apocalypse ...

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Message Date:	1999-12-09 11:57:05 UTC

536 Re: Minor BATM SPOILER -- rank: 633

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 Batrinque@aol.com wrote: > BATM SPOILER of a minor sort BELOW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not entirely clear in my own mind why this should be, but I find the > passage in BATM dealing with Jack's walk down into town after dinner with > Lord Barmouth more than a little unsettling. There is something to it which > reminds me of -- to use a cinematic reference -- the trip upriver in > "A ...

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Message Date:	1999-12-09 06:47:15 UTC

537 ... disappears down huge vortex, reappears in Lake Blue Green. ( Minor BATM SPOILER) -- rank: 633

> From: Charles Munoz [mailto:Charlezzzz@AOL.COM] > > > In a message dated 12/9/99 12:30:23 AM, > peter.mackay@EMS-SOLUTIONS.COM.AU > writes: > > << I see you live north of the Equator where the water drains > anti-clockwise, > > likewise the dogs turn this way before sleep. Unsettlin' ain't it? > > >> > > Widdershins is widdershins no matter where the coven meets. Even more > unsettlin' when ye realizes that hea ...

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538 ... disappears down huge vortex, reappears in Lake Blue Green. ( Minor BATM SPOILER) -- rank: 633

In a message dated 12/9/99 12:30:23 AM, peter.mackay@EMS-SOLUTIONS.COM.AU writes: << I see you live north of the Equator where the water drains anti-clockwise, likewise the dogs turn this way before sleep. Unsettlin' ain't it? >> Widdershins is widdershins no matter where the coven meets. Even more unsettlin' when ye realizes that hearts beat upside down in the antipodes.      Charlezzzz

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Message Date:	1999-12-09 06:12:55 UTC

539 ... disappears down huge vortex, reappears in Lake Blue Green. ( Minor BATM SPOILER) -- rank: 633

> From: Batrinque@AOL.COM [mailto:Batrinque@AOL.COM] > > > BATM SPOILER of a minor sort BELOW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jack sees "an immense fire at the crossroads -- > two whole carts > and countless empty barrels -- with people dancing around it > anti-clockwise." > Anti-clockwise. What an exquisitely observed little deta ...

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Message Date:	1999-12-09 05:28:43 UTC

540 Minor BATM SPOILER -- rank: 633

BATM SPOILER of a minor sort BELOW I am not entirely clear in my own mind why this should be, but I find the passage in BATM dealing with Jack's walk down into town after dinner with Lord Barmouth more than a little unsettling. There is something to it which reminds me of -- to use a cinematic reference -- the trip upriver in "Apocalypse Now". Here in the space of a few pages Jack descends into an unfamiliar world with the old truths discarded. And there is one little detail ...

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Message Date:	1999-12-09 05:15:48 UTC